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    Halcyon Yomi
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    Post by Halcyon Yomi Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:07 pm

    Well sagemode is wholly pointless as apparently they do have the canon thing of first needing meditation, thus making them completely pointless in battle and completely below Cursed seal entirely. Good job Nyg, you just completely removed all reason for me to continue with Yomi: can't exchange a completely friggin useless restricted which takes up a rather important slot.

    I'm not going to restart or reset, when staff is just making rules on the go... I'm off.

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    Post by Shimiko Chinoike Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:34 pm

    The entirety of canon explains that Sage Mode is not something that you can just snap into at will. You have to gather natural energy first. This is an entire plot point in the series on ways to get around this and the rules clearly reflect that. No one forced you to take Sage Mode and the rules haven't changed. They were always the same and you may have neglected to read them or understand them before you decided to take it. If you want to completely change the way a Restricted works because you failed to read how it works on this site (and in canon for that matter) that's not something that should be allowed.


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    Post by Halcyon Yomi Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:16 pm

    You even used a rule that isn't even there. I mean, yes I know naruto, so I know in canon that sagemode needs charging, but this is not feasible in an rpg that is obviously turning into a battle rpg, it also turns sagemode yet again into a joke on this site, as you can't just "claim" you had some clone gathering stuff somewhere.

    There are also the in-game examples:
    Honiko did not charge and as far as I know, NPC's are meant to somewhat keep to the rules.

    And lastly, the example you gave coming straight from the rules page actually says that your senjutsu chakra pool can deplete fast in battle and that the uses of clones and implants from nature clan are good ways to either regain chakra or combat the chakra loss. There is not a single mention of starting with zero chakra except for the actual chakra pool itself. So, you actually had nothing to fall back on except for canon...which has been repeatedly discussed as inspiration, NOT the general rule of this game.

    You also called hits by saying the stun affected yomi, but we got the info from Lyon that the stun only affected that single post, not the ones after aside from the debuff. Calling hits, making up rules on the fly and ignoring rulings by other staff is called bullying and tyranny...just take note to that whenever you bully someone else out of this game. You're currently on strike 2 with that, don't go to strike 3.


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    Post by Shimiko Chinoike Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:01 pm

    Halcyon Yomi wrote:You even used a rule that isn't even there. I mean, yes I know naruto, so I know in canon that sagemode needs charging, but this is not feasible in an rpg that is obviously turning into a battle rpg, it also turns sagemode yet again into a joke on this site, as you can't just "claim" you had some clone gathering stuff somewhere.

    That's why you actually make the clone in a different topic gathering natural energy. You are inserting your own assumption into how Sage Mode works. The fact that Sage Mode cannot be instantaneously active is one of the few drawbacks the Restricted has. I'm not sure why you think we'd remove that one drawback.

    Halcyon Yomi wrote:
    There are also the in-game examples:
    Honiko did not charge and as far as I know, NPC's are meant to somewhat keep to the rules.

    She used an animal fusion technique so that it could be gathered without her having to stay still. That's why its advantageous to tie your contract to an actual summon.

    Halcyon Yomi wrote:
    And lastly, the example you gave coming straight from the rules page actually says that your senjutsu chakra pool can deplete fast in battle and that the uses of clones and implants from nature clan are good ways to either regain chakra or combat the chakra loss. There is not a single mention of starting with zero chakra except for the actual chakra pool itself. So, you actually had nothing to fall back on except for canon...which has been repeatedly discussed as inspiration, NOT the general rule of this game.

    There isn't a single mention of it being activated instantly. There is nothing there that indicates that your Sage Mode immediately starts full the moment you activate it. It says the exact opposite. It says that it must be gathered. Spending experience increases your maximum pool but ultimately you still have to gather natural energy. I don't know why you think the process of gathering it is instantaneous and you immediately activate it at your max pool just b having the Restricted.

    That's a misinterpretation on your part and I think your the only one who seriously thought you didn't need to gather natural energy before using it.


    Halcyon Yomi wrote:
    You also called hits by saying the stun affected yomi, but we got the info from Lyon that the stun only affected that single post, not the ones after aside from the debuff. Calling hits, making up rules on the fly and ignoring rulings by other staff is called bullying and tyranny...just take note to that whenever you bully someone else out of this game. You're currently on strike 2 with that, don't go to strike 3.

    Okay now I'm really confused....at one point did Lyon said that I couldn't react to you being stunned? For transparency's sake this is what Lyon said:


    The discs met the WCW water, and conducted their lightning through it.
    Yomi was electrified, but because the water met the discs halfway, there was enough water to disperse the lightning and severely weaken the technique to a point.

    If you guys were further appart and she had time to create more water, I could even say the discs were completely nullified, but that is not the case here. If by the time she used the technique she could see the discs coming, then there wouldn't be a lot of time to create a huuuuge amount of water.

    With B-rank constitution vs a weakened B-rank attack, I'd say she is stunned and not able to complete the hand-seals for that last technique she used on the end of her post.
    Additionally she suffers a '- -' disadvantage to Coord for the rest of the match (let's say, as a result of the stun).


    To say that his ruling suggested I couldn't react to you being stunned is a straight up lie.

    You have a weird way of interpreting things. Are you saying that for the period of time that you were stunned, space and time halted and no one could react to the fact that you had been stunned? That's senseless and if you think that's what Lyon's ruling indicated, why not ask him? I don't think a common sense interpretation of his ruling means that I am frozen in time and incapable of reacting or doing anything for the period of time that you are stunned.


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