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    Masaru
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    Post by Masaru on Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:42 pm

    This is a simple vote, however to keep thing proper this is how it will work. Every Player gets 1 vote, not every character, If you vote on multiple accounts All of your votes will be Invalid.

    Immunity to B-Rank and lower has been approved and how it works is you can only hold immunity to a single Element/whatever. It takes 1 of the 3 attunement slots a character is allowed at one time, and you can't switch in the middle of a thread because of it.

    A 2 Tier Reduction to damage from a source was also approved, takes an attunement slot and is an enchantment with 45 chargers.

    This is already been established and is not in question, the discussion is over however since Admins can't agree i have decided that the vote will come to the site.

    So I ask you,
    Should these things be allowed to stack, and grant full immunity to a Single source such as Raiton based attacks, etc?

    To ensure that no one votes twice and their stance on the matter is counted, you will be required to make a post here stating one of the following.

    "No, these should not be allowed to Stack!"

    Or

    "Yes, These should be allowed to Stack!"

    This vote will conclude in Exactly 48hrs from the time posted to give everyone on site a chance to vote, at which time the majority will rule and we will move forward with this.


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    Post by Tetsudashi Ken on Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:47 pm

    No, these should not be allowed to Stack, stacking would be absolutely stupid and make them immune to everything in existence.


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    Post by Uchiha Akihiro on Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:49 pm

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    "No, these should not be allowed to Stack!"
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    Post by AriDokuma on Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:52 pm

    I don't mind something like this stacking, however from an outside perspective I think it'll be easier to simply put down that resistances of the same element shouldn't stack. This doesn't necessarily mean you can't have multiple resistances, but I believe having the option to either not be damaged up to a certain rank in a certain element or just take up a two tier damage reduction from said element would suffice in terms of balancing.


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    Post by Kimiko on Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:54 pm

    "Yes, These should be allowed to Stack!"
    It takes up 2 of the 3 attunement slots, and there are plenty of ways to nullify that advantage by damaging the items, using fuuin, using other jutsu, etc etc.


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    Post by Kitsuki Kurahasa on Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:02 pm

    "No, these should not be allowed to Stack!"

    Why are we even having this debate? This is utterly absurd.

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    Post by Kyoji on Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:08 pm

    "No, these should not be allowed to Stack!"

    There's usually a Restricted or KKG behind total immunities.


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    Post by Kuro on Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:58 pm

    Considering the sort of other defenses that bloodlines and whatever other skills the character may have in their repertoire can give them, this would be pretty broken if allowed.

    So, my vote will also be "No, they should not be allowed to stack".
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    Post by Akari Uchiha on Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:21 pm

    "No, these should not be allowed to Stack!"

    This, right here.


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    Post by Kara on Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:42 pm

    "No, these should not be allowed to Stack!"


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    Post by Ryuko on Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:27 pm

    "Yes, These should be allowed to Stack!"

    It takes 2 attument slots and isn't even full complete immunity. Just because you're wearing a suit that nufflies attacks that hit it doesn't mean that you can be hit anywhere with those attacks with no effect.

    And it's just one element. Being partly immune to only one is far from being invincible. There's so many ways to attack or to to get around it that anyone thinking it'll make them untouchable will end up getting their butts kicked for their arrogance.

    How to beat someone tank your fire attacks with your fire attacks.




    Getting rid of it only makes the equipment system more shallow and takes away tactical options giving people less choices about how they want to approach a fight.

    For example Batman has an anti-ice suit for when he goes to fight Mr. Freeze but it won't do him any good if he gets jumped during general patrol when he doesn't have it equipped since it's not part of his standard load out. And it sure as heck won't help him if he ends up having to fight someone else like Firefly.

    TLDR - If you end up fighting someone you can't hurt with an element adapt.


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    Post by Mort on Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:09 am

    "Yes, These should be allowed to Stack!"
    But I have 2 caveats to that in my though process:
    1} There's nothing that I have found that says a KKG bloodline couldn't be made that increases their attunement slots a la 5e artificer, so if stacking becomes allowed it should be limited to 1 element or form of attack (pierce, blunt, slash, etc).
    2} If it's allowed it should only stick to non-elemental, primary/advanced elements, and forms of attack. Not Genjutsu, Fuinjutsu, Inton (Yin) nor Yoton (Yang).


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    Post by Uchiha Akihiro on Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:00 pm

    Timer ended.

    I count 7-3 in favour of not stacking. (I didn't quite get Ari's position)

    Can we please get this specified on the rules?
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    Post by Kureji Toukei on Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:33 pm

    Despite the vote ending, thought I'd still add my two cents to this.

    I'm going to say no to the stacking.

    I'm not against the idea of immunity being a thing, but the idea that immunity can be bought with a small amount of ryo is ridiculous.

    This should be something along the lines of a KKG (i.e. a Hozuki having resistance if not outright immunity against Suiton) or a restricted having some form of immunity against an element or type of damage. These are the only scenarios I'd accept immunity to happen, and not something to be purchased with 50k/100k ryo.


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